Para primeira experiência a este nível acho que estive bastante bem!
É muito duro fazer dois jogos seguidos (com pouco mais de 10min de intervalo entre eles), com árbitros diferentes e formas diferentes de trabalhar... longo o dia!
Samoa 41 - USA 11
Refs: Radu (Roménia) | Afonso + Ucha
A abertura do Torneio, o primeiro jogo com o "peso da camisola"! Acho que me safei.
Durante o aquecimento procurei afinar alguns pormenores de comunicação com o Ucha (o outro AR).
Jogo desnivelado sem grande história, o Radu teve alguns problemas na Mellée. Dei uma bandeira e recomendação para amarelo ao 7 americano, uma pêra num ruck... Para cartão amarelo também se tem de fazer relatório...
SANCTION SUMMARY
Total Penalties 22
- Ruck/Maul Penalties 5
- Scrum Penalties 6
- Lineout Penalties
- General Play Penalties 3
- Foul Play Penalties 8
Total Frees 6
- Ruck/Maul Frees
- Scrum Frees 3
- Lineout Frees 2
- General Play Frees 1
Total Penalties/Frees 28
Yellow Cards 2
Red Cards
Touch Judge Report 2 1
Jogo brilhantemente arbitrado pelo Taizo, muito técnico e fisicamente apto. A comunicação foi um bocado difícil mas conseguiu gerir o jogo tranquilamente, apesar das muitas penalidades foi um jogo bem gerido. SANCTION SUMMARY
Total Penalties 23
- Ruck/Maul Penalties 14
- Scrum Penalties 2
- Lineout Penalties
- General Play Penalties 2
- Foul Play Penalties 5
Total Frees 4
- Ruck/Maul Frees
- Scrum Frees 3
- Lineout Frees
- General Play Frees 1
Total Penalties/Frees 27
Yellow Cards
Red Cards
Touch Judge Report
São 11h por aqui e já estive reunido com os 2 árbitros de campo que vou auxiliar.
Ao pequeno almoço estive reunido com o Taizo (Japonês) uma longa conversa que abordou todas as funções do AA e formas de comunicação, esta conversa não contou com a presença do Ucha (outro AA - georgiano). Só depois conversámos a 3 com o Ucha, uma conversa menos "formal" e com menos "exigências". Uma das preocupações do Taizo é a performance (ou falta dela...) do Ucha sobretudo pelo jogo ser Russia vs Uruguai, sendo um jogo que envolve a Russia poderá ser um factor de distracção para um georgiano. Acho que o Taizo gostou da minha abordagem ao jogo, dei-lhe sempre a entender que o jogo é do árbitro e estou lá para o necessário (clear and obvious).
A conversa com o Radu (Romeno)foi mais rápida e directa, quer as coisas normais. Houve algumas perguntas e sugestões feitas pelo Ucha mas que foram tranquilamente respondidas pelo Radu. O jogo é Samoa vs USA.
Mais logo faço o balanço dos jogos. Agora é tempo dos últimos preparativos, arrumar os kits todos para os jogos!
Vai ser um dia difícil, já que tenho 2 jogos seguidos:
14h - Samoa vs USA Refs: Radu | Afonso + Ucha
16h - Russia vs Uruguai Refs: Taizo | Afonso + Ucha
Logo de manhã fui ao Gym fazer uma corrida e puxar um ferro, seguiu-se uma piscina para o relax.
Depois do pequeno almoço em grupo fomos conhecer o campo "principal", onde se vão disputar 3/4s dos jogos. Disseram-nos que não valia a pena conhecer o outro estádio pois é praticamente uma réplica deste, a política da Federação Georgiana é construir até 2018 mais 18 estádios iguais... ui. As condições são óptimas, 1 campo relvado com uma bancada para 1 ou 2 mil pessoas com um sintético ao lado, por baixo das bancadas os 6 balneários e ginásio.
Aproveitámos o momento para experimentar os rádios e a comunicação "possível" com os 4º e 5º árbitros, georgianos:
Steps:
1- Referee
2- Replacement
3- Color
4- Number
Deu também para jogar um touch rugby com bola de ténis.
Chegámos ao hotel por volta das 12h, houve tempo para uma reunião de equipa (só os árbitros) em que deu para afinar alguns pormenores logísticos e de pagamentos (os atrasos são pagos com 5 "Laris"!). Na reunião diária de árbitros combinámos os transportes e massagens para 4ª Feira.
Depois disto fomos (eu o Espanhol e o Uruguaio) até à piscina, sauna e banho turco. Seguiu-se um tempo de descanço que aproveitei para ir até ao Skype e mail.
Ao final da tarde testámos os radios de novo e tivemos uma sessão com o responsável da análise do jogo do torneio, estivemos a ver todas as potencialidades do sistema e como usar os números para detectar problemas ou pontos a melhorar.
Jantámos num restaurante uns bifes e massa, finalmente comida apropriada para um evento desportivo!
Bem cedo (5 da matina em Portugal) fui correr com o Jorge e Joaquin (Uruguaio) pelas ruas perto do hotel durante 40minutos. Tomámos o pequeno almoço todos em conjunto e tivemos um meeting com os treinadores em que abordámos os "BIG FIVE" e algumas questões relativas à organização do torneio (zonas técnicas, águas, equipa médica, etc).
Fui à piscina do hotel e fiz um banho turco para recuperar. A piscina do hotel é no 18º andar e tem vista aberta para toda a cidade, depois mostro fotos.
À tarde fomos até Mtskheta (http://wikitravel.org/en/Mtskheta) e almoçámos/jantámos pelo caminho, mais um grande jantar de lord que empanturrou todos.
Meio ensonado às 10h combinei ir tomar o pequeno-almoço com o Jorge (espanhol) para ver se encontrávamos os outros árbitros, nada feito, voltei para a cama e dormi até ao primeiro encontro de refs.
Fomos chegando a conta-gotas e conhecendo-nos. O grupo é engraçado, para não variar sou o mais novo....!
O ponto alto da reunião foi a entrega dos Kits IRB... pelo menos para mim foi!
Depois do meeting fomos ao gym, fiz 25+25 min de corrida, supino, pranchas e abdominais.
O Jantar foi num restaurante georgiano com todos os árbitros, "comemos quem nem uns alarves"... um jantar daqueles dava para 3 refeições normais.
Com esta "crónica" pretendo juntar o útil ao agradável, ou seja, ir dando a conhecer o meu dia-a-dia aqui no Junior World Rugby Trophy aos eventuais interessados, e também ir registando tudo o que preciso para fazer um relatório do torneio (para entregar na FPR).
Resumindo, a ideia é fazer um diário de "bordo" ou do Torneio.
A nomeação vem na sequência do Level 3 da IRB. Há que salientar que "apenas" participo como Árbitro Auxiliar, basicamente é um primeiro contacto com os torneios IRB e com árbitros de nível superior. Uma experiência que certamente dará frutos.
Dia 1
O dia foi praticamente todo ocupado pela viagem, apanhei 2 voos, Lisbon-Munich e Munich-Tblisi.
Em Munich encontrei-me com o Jorge (AA espanhol que conheço há alguns anos), Carlos (Performance Reviewer argentino) e Bernd (Director dos Árbitros, alemão).
Chegámos às 4h da manhã locais e fomos directos para o hotel Radisson, local onde ficaremos instalados nos próximos 19 dias (http://www.radissonblu.com/hotel-tbilisi/). Hotel com umas excelentes condições, grande quarto, ginásio, piscina, saunas, banhos turcos, etc etc!
NOTA: toda e qualquer associação deste diagrama com o modo de pensamento de alguns jogadores portugueses é da total responsabilidade dos leitores com ideias demoníacas...
#3
ah pois, são franceses!
Os Srs Árbitros gauleses continuam a insistir em mostrar cartões a 2 jogadores de equipas diferentes em simultâneo, e depois queixam-se que eles se pegam!
#4
e agora o Wayne Barnes
ver e ouvir bem
o momento da paragem,
a forma como separa os jogadores e as equipas,
o protocolo e as palavras que usa com o AA,
"let me say what I've seen and then you can add"
fala com 1 capitão e expulsa 1 jogador,
"leave the field",
só depois faz o mesmo à outra equipa,
e depois que segue a bola?!
#5
Try or no try?
There’s been lots of comment on the Tom Carter no-try decision on Saturday night. People have strong views on the subject.
Here’s the footage of the movement from three different angles.
As a starting point for my analysis I’ve summarised the comments of those who believe the wrong decision was made as follows.
The referee was in poor position or the wrong position to make a decision;
Even if it wasn’t a try, the ensuing scrum should have been awarded to the Waratahs;
Even if the footage doesn’t show the ball being grounded over the line, there were so many Waratahs players over the line that it was obvious that the ball must have been over the line;
If the footage was inconclusive the benefit of the doubt should have been given to the attacking team.
Not everyone who believes it was a try has said all of those things; some have made other points, and some have said it differently, but those four points seem to be the crux of the argument.
Let me address each of those points.
Positioning of the Referee
In the following clip you can see the referee moves around at the rear of the maul so he can keep sight of the ball.
The first thing the referee needs to make a decision on was whether the ball was grounded. Only then does he need to determine whether that grounding was on or over the try line.
I don’t see where else the referee could have positioned himself to see the ball any better, and when it got close to the line he moved to the side to see whether the try line had been crossed.
I think the referee was in a good enough position to make a decision.
The Feed at the Ensuing Scrum
Law 22.10 says:
“When a player carrying the ball is held up in the in-goal so that the player cannot ground the ball, the ball is dead. A 5-metre scrum is formed. This would apply if play similar to a maul takes place in-goal. The attacking team throws in the ball.”
If the ball crossed the line but was not grounded then under Law 22.10 a 5 metre scrum should have been awarded with the attacking team, the Waratahs, being awarded the feed.
However, if the ball didn’t cross the line that law does not apply and instead we need to look at Law 17.6.
Law 17.6 (b) says:
“A maul ends unsuccessfully if the ball becomes unplayable or collapses (not as a result of foul play) and a scrum is ordered.”
Law 17.6 (c) then says:
“Scrum following maul. The ball is thrown in by the team not in possession when the maul began. If the referee cannot decide which team had possession, the team moving forward before the maul stopped throws in the ball. If neither team was moving forward, the attacking team throws in the ball.”
There is no doubt the Waratahs took the ball into the maul.
Law 17.6 (f) also says:
“When the ball in a maul becomes unplayable, the referee does not allow prolonged wrestling for it. A scrum is ordered.”
Neither the referee nor the TMO believed the ball had crossed the line, and if that is correct, they were looking at a maul, which had collapsed.
It’s also pretty clear that the ball became unplayable immediately the maul collapsed and the decision made by the referee was correct under Law 17.6.
As to whether the ball crossed the line or not, read on.
Did the Ball Cross the Line?
The footage and images I’m about to refer to are obviously easier to see on a large screen where there’s been no compression required to get the clip down to a suitable size and format for the Internet and You Tube. So if you can’t see the ball in the clip, I’ll have to ask you to take my word for it that on a big screen in digital format you can see the ball.
Tom Carter was carrying the ball under his right arm while he was still on his feet, as shown here:
Image 1
When he first went off his feet he placed the ball down on top of other players and well short of the line, as shown in the following image.
Image 2
He then shifted the ball to his left side and was successful in grounding the ball but again well short of the line, as shown in this image:
Image 3
To make sure I’ve not confused the ball with a boot, I’ve identified the boots / legs of the players around the ball here.
Image 4
He then advanced the ball again and 19/25ths of a second later grounded the ball again, which we can see from the rear view.
Image 5
It’s easier to see the ball when it’s moving so I’ve slowed the footage from each of the angles and highlighted where the ball is in the following clip.
The challenge with this analysis is to determine whether, on the second grounding of the ball, there is any evidence of whether it was grounded before the try line, on the try line or over it.
The first thing to look for is a reference point between all the angles we have of the moment that the ball was grounded. In the following clip watch the movement of Greg Holmes as he gets to his feet.
In Image number 5 above from the rear view you can see the ball on the ground, and you can see that Holmes’s leg is parallel to the ground at that particular moment.
In the following image you can also see that Holmes’s leg is parallel to the ground, so this is the same moment.
Image 6
Again, in this image from the side view his leg is also parallel to the ground, so this is also the same moment.
Image 7
So we now have three views of the moment the ball was grounded the second time.
If we return to Image number 5 above, where you can see the ball grounded, you can also see that the ball has been placed against Carter’s left thigh. You can also see Luke Burgess has his hands close to the ball as he reaches in trying to pick it up. That gives us the first clue as to whether the ball is grounded on the try line or over it: if it is, why is Burgess attempting to pick it up? Why wouldn’t he instead be pointing to the ball to let the referee know he can see it grounded on or over the try line? There is no way we can answer that question, so we’ll have to look at what other evidence there is.
Of course the problem with Image number 5 above is that it’s shot from the rear and we cannot see the try line.
So let’s look at Image number 6 above, where we can’t see the ball or the position of Carter’s left thigh. The thing this shot is useful for is to show where Burgess’s hands are. We know his hands were very close to the ball at that particular moment and this shot shows that his hands are quite some distance away from the try line.
Image number 7 above from the side angle is more helpful. At the very moment that the ball is grounded it’s obvious that Burgess’s hands are well short of the try line. What we don’t know for sure is how far in front of Burgess’s hands the ball was.
However, the time difference between the side view where we can see the ball on the ground and the rear view when we see it being grounded again, is only 19/25ths of a second. To see how quickly the ball would have had to advance from the first point it was on the ground to the try line at the moment we can see it being grounded for the second time, I’ve added the outline of a ball to the side on view as shown in the following clip.
While my graphics showing the movement of the ball are a little basic, they illustrate how far the ball would have had to travel in such a short time to even end up on the line. It doesn’t look plausible that Carter was able to advance it that far, that quickly.
This isn’t conclusive proof, but I think it shows that if you had to make a decision, it’s more likely that the ball was grounded short of the try line rather than on or over the try line.
But there was some doubt in the referee’s mind and accordingly he asked the TMO for assistance.
What About Benefit of the Doubt Going to the Attacking Team?
The concept of Benefit of the Doubt does not exist in Rugby Union.
The laws regarding the TMO do not mention what should occur if the referee or the TMO has doubts about a decision.
Therefore there was no benefit of the doubt to be applied as there is in Cricket or in Rugby League.
Conclusion
So, did the referee make the right decision?
He was in a good enough position to make the decision;
While the TMO confirmed it was inconclusive as to whether a try had been scored, he did confirm he could see no evidence that the ball had crossed the try line;
I think the evidence I’ve shown you supports the proposition that the ball was short of the try line;
As the TMO could not give him a definite answer the referee was required to make a decision based on what he believed had occurred;
The fact that he decided the maul had become unplayable, rather than that the ball had been held up in-goa,l shows that he believed that the ball had not crossed the try line.
Having decided that the ball was short of the try line he made the correct decision in ruling that it was a collapsed maul where the ball had become unplayable ,and it was the defensive team’s feed into the scrum.
Já tenho nomeações para a 1ª ronda do Junior World Rugby Trophy:
Samoa vs USA (1st AR)
Russia vs Uruguay (1st AR)
Georgia vs Zimbabue (2nd AR)
Samoa vs Uruguay (2nd AR)
#6
Mourinha no JWC 2011
Foram anunciados esta semana os nomes dos árbitros que integram o Junior World Championship e o Mourinha está lá! Parabéns!
Referees:
JP Doyle (England), Greg Garner (England), Leighton Hodges (Wales), John Lacey (Ireland), Francisco Pastrana (Argentina), Neil Paterson (Scotland), Jaco Peyper (South Africa), Mathieu Raynal (France) e Jonathon White (New Zealand).
The Assistant Referees:
Carlo Damasco (Italy), Marius Mitrea (Italy) and João Mourinha (Portugal)
JP Doyle, Francisco Pastrana e Greg Garner estiveram a arbitrar em Portugal nos test matches de Novembro. Marius Mitrea tirou o curso nível 3 comigo.
Carlo Damasco está também nomeado para AA do Mundial, será preparação?!
#7
Antecipação
é por estas e por outras que gosto de chegar atrasado às coisas
